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    Maybe Think Twice Before Shaming Someone Not Wearing A Face Mask

    "Shaming people does not have the effect we want it to have. ... It doesn’t make people adopt those behaviors, and it actually drives them underground and makes people afraid to disclose what they’re doing."

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    A woman wears a face mask at a shopping center in Miami Beach, Florida, June 29.

    The date: July 1! The time: News O'Clock! Listen here!

    On today's episode of News O'Clock:

    Our hosts Hayes and Casey talk to epidemiologist Julia Marcus about the people who still refuse to wear face masks despite the pandemic — and how shaming them may actually make things worse.

    Also the European Union is reopening its borders today — but Americans aren’t welcome yet, and Hong Kong police arrested dozens of pro-democracy protesters after China passed a new security law.

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    A protester uses a sharp object against a police officer who is trying to detain a man during a rally against a new national security law in Hong Kong on July 1, the 23rd anniversary of the city's handover from Britain to China.

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    Kenny Ortega

    Then we discuss how some of Harvey Weinstein’s victims have agreed to a nearly $19 million potential settlement.

    Plus did you know that Kenny Ortega, the director of the High School Musical trilogy, said the character of Ryan was absolutely gay and probably came out in college?

    And as a special treat, in honor of the new Netflix comedy, we quiz Casey on past Eurovision winners...and it goes great.

    Lastly, if you have thoughts on the mask-wearing divide, want to tell us about your favorite Eurovision song, or have anything at all you want to share with us, feel free to send us an email:! You can either write down your brilliant opinion OR, even better, record it as a voice memo. You can email it to us or DM us on Twitter — we’re @NewsOClock.

    Learn more about these stories by listening to today's News O'Clock podcast above, or on any of these platforms:

    Or find News O'Clock wherever else you listen to your favorite podcasts.

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