Teresa: "This was a long time ago."
Cohen: "Joe, when you were handing her documents to sign, did you know what you were handing her to sign?"
Joe: "Just whatever the bank gave for her to sign."
Cohen: "But you were taking out false loans."
Joe: "All right. Whatever. I was taking out false loans."
Since we still don't know what Joe's (and Teresa's?) thought process was as they used faked documents to get millions of dollars from lenders, this part of the interview may be as much detail as we're ever going to get. Cohen pushed, asking Joe about the documents — fake W-2s and tax returns — that did not appear from out of nowhere. Someone created them, Teresa signed them, and Joe submitted them.
Joe acted like those documents came from the bank itself. "I would get the paperwork, sign it, and it would be done," he said. Cohen said that was illegal was what Joe had sent to the bank.
"Yes, well, there was illegal things as far as tax returns and stuff like that," Joe said. "Yes."