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      I agree with you Hank but I think you’ve misunderstood me. Of course segregation leads to discrimination, that wasn’t what I was disputing. I was just responding to some of the first few posts (that are now buried in the FaceBook feed). As far as I can see, Obama made a fairly innocuous statement and some people drew inferences from it that he was criticising Catholic schools. Some posters here even went as far as to say he was “disgraceful”. All I was trying to say was that the only people kicking up a real fuss about this (the content of Obama’s statement) seem to be living on the opposite side of the Atlantic from Ireland. The fact that some of these people are outraged is just a bit strange because people in Ireland didn’t consider his statement to be significant. The posters here actually living in the North, at least the few (and there’s only a few here, relatively speaking) simply agreed with the fact that segregation is a bad thing and didn’t seem to notice, like me, that Obama had somehow supposedly said something they should be offended by. You’ll struggle to find any of the mainstream media on the island picking this up as a main story. The people in the North know their own problems well enough and don’t need people living thousands of miles away with no grip on the situation to leap to their defence in false outrage at their president. They are the loudmouths I was disagreeing with.

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      Apologies for the typo.Iwas (attempting) to quote from the article inaresponse toaposter above who was usinga’hackneyed’ analysis herself. In my commentIwas trying to make the point that there’s no sense in becoming outraged on behalf of people thousands of miles away from you when they’ve barely taken any notice of these remarks themselves. Most people in Northern Ireland don’t really look for any significant meaning in what the Obama administration has to say on these visits because he has little influence on their daily lives. His visit is seen in Ireland asabit of excitement but the subtleties of these quotes from him on how to fix their problems will be largely ignored because he has no real input. As another poster said, it’s mainly the American commentators who are doing the most complaining.

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      Trisha, you didn’t answer the question. Ryan cox asked why the loudest critics are in a continent a few thousand miles away from Northern Ireland. Whether they are of Irish descent or not is irrelevant. In other words, why aren’t the NI politicians kicking up a big fuss?
      Your aggression is misplaced anyway as the first poster is not too far wrong - this ‘story’ is not getting any real coverage in Ireland because not many people will remember what Obama said a week after he leaves. Sure his analysis was a bit “hackyned” but what do you expect from a soundbyte from a man who doesn’t have Ireland at the top of his priority list (nor would I expect him to, he has plenty of other bigger worries)? The Irish-American lobby has always been significant so I’m not surprised that some of them might seize this and use it as a stick to beat him with. Feel outraged if you want but meanwhile, back in Ireland, people have barely noticed this.