“Logan Roy Is My King,” And Every Other Unhinged Thought We Had About The “Succession” Finale

“In an ideal world, I would love a throuple between Shiv and Tom and Greg.”

On today's episode of BuzzFeed Daily, we broke down the top pop culture headlines AND discussed the latest season of Succession. You can listen below or scroll down to read more about the interview!

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So let's dive right into it! Recently we talked to Buzzfeed’s Ehis Osifo about the season finale of Succession. Here's an excerpt from our interview:

BuzzFeed Daily: OK, so Succession just wrapped up this past Sunday, which I'm upset about, because why nine episodes and not 10?

Ehis Osifo: Honestly, it's weird and it's rude, and it's giving me Game of Thrones flashbacks that I don't like.

BuzzFeed Daily: OK, so if you could sum up your reaction to this season in only five words, what would they be?

EO: Logan. Roy. Is. My. King.

BuzzFeed Daily: Oh my God, why is that your first take? I thought you were going to say "Logan Roy hates his kids."

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EO: I mean, I would hate my kids too. They're not good kids. His kids aren't great, and they were all out here trying to stage a coup. He was like, "I couped you."

BuzzFeed Daily: He's trying to kick them out, Ehis!

EO: Sucks to suck.

BuzzFeed Daily: I cannot believe this is what we're starting this conversation with.

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EO: I'm just saying nepotism got everyone nowhere, and if you don't actually earn your position, why does he have to give it to you? None of them have earned it.

...I mean, did it hurt me to see Roman crumpled on the floor and Shiv like "hell hath no fury like a woman scorned?" Yes, it did.

BuzzFeed Daily: Those were Renassaince paintings, those shots.

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EO: I want a portrait of Tom behind Shiv and her face when she realized what happened. That's going to go down in cinematic history.

BuzzFeed Daily: Okay, you already mentioned Game of Thrones, and I feel like Succession at this point has become the new Game of Thrones. It's HBO's biggest, most-watched, and talked-about series now. So what do you think it is about the show that made it so popular?

EO: So my whole thing is that I think that Succession is essentially Game of Thrones without dragons. I think a lot of people think that Game of Thrones is this huge fantasy series with like witches and dragons and dire wolves, which don't get me wrong, that's definitely a big part of the show. But when it comes down to brass tacks, Game of Thrones is literally several families fighting for power, and that's what Succession is. It's just several children and their father fighting for power.

BuzzFeed Daily: Before we talk about the finale, I want to talk about the other biggest shock of the season, which came during the penultimate episode when Roman accidentally sent his father a dick pic. Other than the shock factor, what did you think was so effective about this moment?

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EO: This is a reason why I support Logan's decisions — if you're that careless with your body, how are you going to treat a company? And then the whole thing with Gerri — I can't even get into it. That made me more stressed than anything. Could you imagine sending your penis to your father? I just picture Annalise Keating being like, "Why is your penis on a dead girl's phone?" I just imagined Logan Roy being like, "Why is my son's penis on my phone?"

BuzzFeed Daily: I know that you love ~the moment~ with Logan because you say that Logan is your king, but was there another point in that finale that just really stood out for you?

EO: Aside from Logan Roy being my lord and savior, I'd say the scene where Roman is collapsed on the floor and Kendall comes behind him to place his hand on his shoulder, and how that mirrored the scene where Kendall was on the floor, I think after he left to rehab, and Roman was comforting him — just those parallels together. I was like, "Wow, that was beautiful."

In general, so much was said [without being said]. You couldn't take your eyes off the screen because even the littlest things had so much meaning, maybe even more meaning than the things that were said. Like Shiv's face when she realized what Tom did... Tom's not going to be alive for very much longer.

BuzzFeed Daily: Well, Logan, your king, is on his side.

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EO: I mean, here's the thing. Logan, I love. Tom, I think is a spineless piece of shit.

I think Shiv gets the shit end of the stick because she doesn't love him, but also he is out here being conniving and being a weasel behind her back. I think they're both equal parties in not being good spouses for each other. He just came out on top.

BuzzFeed Daily: Is there anything you thought Succession could have done better this season or that you're hoping for in Season 4?

EO: I almost don't want to have predictions because I like going in and seeing where the story takes me. When I started Succession, I thought I was going to just be 100% Team Greg. I was like, "Team Greg, he deserves everything. Love Greg, love Nicholas Braun. He's going to be the succession." And now it seems like almost every season, I end up loving a different member of the family. 

So I don't want to go in with predictions or go in with like, "This is what I want" because if I don't get it, I'll be upset. But if I do get it, then I'm going to be like, "Well, I wanted to be surprised." But I will say, in an ideal world, I would love a throuple between Shiv and Tom and Greg.

BuzzFeed Daily: Greg and Shiv are related, Ehis.

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EO: That's what makes it Game of Thrones.

Moving on, in the rest of the show, we talked about Billie Eilish revealing what she thinks about porn and how watching it has affected her.

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On an episode of Howard Stern’s SiriusXM show Billie said quote: “As a woman, I think porn is a disgrace,” adding that she was 11 years old when she started watching it.

She also said that she felt it warped her perception of what sex should be like. "The first few times I had sex, I was not saying no to things that were not good. It was because I thought that’s what I was supposed to be attracted to. I’m so angry that porn is so loved, and I’m so angry at myself for thinking that it was OK. The way that vaginas look in porn is fucking crazy. No vaginas look like that. Women’s bodies don’t look like that. We don’t come like that."

Plus, on a different episode of The Howard Stern Show, Ben Affleck said that he felt quote “trapped” during his marriage to Jennifer Garner, claiming that’s what led him to drink excessively before they ultimately quote “grew apart.”

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He said: "I was like 'I can't leave 'cause of my kids, but I'm not happy, what do I do?,'" he continued. "What I did was drink a bottle of scotch and fall asleep on the couch, which turned out not to be the solution."

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