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Heems Talks To "See Something Say Something" About Flying While Brown

"I just came (back to the U.S.) after a long trip... can't you just say welcome home?"

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Getting "randomly selected" when you're flying is the woooooorst.

So on the BuzzFeed podcast See Something Say Something, I talked to Indian American rapper and activist Heems about flying while brown.

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If you don't know Heems, he's a member of Swet Shop Boys, alongside Redino and Riz Ahmed, who recently starred in a little movie called Rogue One.

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The group recently released an album, Cashmere. Many of their songs deal with identity, growing up Muslim or Hindu, and immigration.

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In the episode, I ask Heems how he came to write from the perspective of Muslim characters, even though he himself is Hindu and raised in Queens.


We spend the episode talking about intersectionality, Bollywood, and of course, flying while brown. Listen to the full episode here!

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