Why The World Hates Jay Leno
He’s been No. 1 for two decades, but he’s treated more like Public Enemy No 1. To be cool is to hate Jay.
Jay Leno and Jimmy Fallon in happier times during the 70th Annual Golden Globe Awards. Image by Kevin Winter / Getty Images
Four paragraphs from the bottom of Wednesday’s New York Times story on the impending ouster of Jay Leno comes a very telling sentence. After nearly 800 words detailing NBC’s suddenly desperate scramble to remove Leno from his Tonight Show perch and replace him with Jimmy Fallon, reporter Bill Carter points out, “Another complicating factor has been Mr. Leno’s continued success in the ratings.”
Such has been the tragedy of Jay Leno’s career: scorned by critics, reviled by all of comedy, plotted against by executives. The host lives a lonely life, unloved by anyone except the viewers.
For 21 years, Leno has sat (mostly) at the top of the late-night time-slot wars. To get to No. 1 of anything in television is no easy feat. To get to No. 1 and stay there for 21 years is unimaginable. To do that on a network that for most of the past decade has been America’s longest running car wreck is a feat worthy of a Marvel comics superhero.
And what has been Leno’s thanks for this? A constant, never-ceasing demand from the chattering classes that he be replaced. Until now, as he still remains at the top of the after hours pyramid, NBC is apparently willing to risk another round of PR humiliation in order to purge its king.
If it seems a classic case of “attacking your successes,” such is the familar mania that Leno inspires in people.
So from where does the hatred toward Leno arise? Why after all these years have so many never been able to make their peace with the long-chinned chat titan?
First of all, it goes back to his original sin. The Leno/Letterman feud was the subject of Carter’s popular book, The Late Shift, which yielded an HBO movie — and a reputation for moral cowardice Leno has not been able to shed. In the eyes of the critical establishment, no one who took on David Letterman was going to come out looking good.
The former Late Night host remains one of the great innovators in television history and is the man largely responsible for introducing irony in everyday language. If you still believe, as many critics do, that TV should largely be about itself and every talk show should be an examination of what it is to be a talk show, you have David Letterman to thank.
It didn’t help matters that in the official portrayals, Leno came across as a sniveling backstabber, unable to confront or defend even his most loyal supporters. And worse still that once he took the Tonight Show reins, he immediately went to work shaving the rough edges off the formerly caustic persona and transforming himself into the modern milquetoast we know today. It was a metamorphosis that many still cringe to recall. (“He willfully shut the switch off,” shuddered Patton Oswalt.)
And worse still, it worked! After Letterman settled in at CBS, the defanged Leno beat him, and has continued to beat him to this day.
And then came round two. NBC’s handling of the Leno 10 p.m. experiment was a case study in PR malpractice. However, despite the scorn visited upon them as the project unfolded and in its horrific aftermath, the idea was anything but insane. NBC, looking to bring a younger face to its lineup with Conan O’Brien, was simultaneously faced with the prospect of Leno defecting to another network from where he would duly beat them silly. Further, with network scripted shows failing across the landscape like the Charge of the Light Brigade, the notion of having an hour less of expensive, doomed dramatic cannon fodder does not seem as idiotic as it was painted at the time. If you think this was pure madness, consider that two years later, many of NBC’s 10 p.m. shows get lower ratings then the far less expensive Leno show did in their slot. In the light of the subsequent prime-time holocaust, the Leno move looks almost visionary.
But no matter. Between the Lenophobia (and its counterpart disease Jeff Zuckerphobia) and the network’s catastrophic handling of the situation, the knives were out as they rarely are for anything in television. Leno won The Tonight Show back, but once again it was a scorched earth victory.
The combined effect of all these sins was to set in stone an animus toward Leno that nothing can touch. To be a thinking or cool person in America is to hate Jay, and like Dave, or Conan, or Kimmel, or Jon Stewart: anyone in the long line of talk show hosts breaking off a niche of the stratifying media world by being edgier and cooler than Leno.
And now, again, there is the cry to get Jay the hell out of there. When Jimmy Kimmel was getting a fraction the ratings that Leno now holds, barely a peep was heard demanding his ouster. One never hears that second-place (and scandal-prone himself) Letterman “must go.” Carter writes that the move is driven by NBC’s need to bring in younger viewers to the network, and the belief that Fallon can succeed at this where Leno has failed. Maybe, maybe not. But when one looks across the rubble of the NBC lineup, it would seem there are better places to start with that effort than in with the network’s one clear victory.
But such is the way in television conversation these days. As America divides into tribes, the media, the pundits, and the television critics have grouped into one very distinct tribe, with very distinct tastes. And if you, like them, live in a tribe where Leno hating is an official religion, it’s very hard to imagine there exists a larger world where he is actually one of the most successful media figures of our times.
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benjaminc5 a month agoIf Jay Leno had told NBC to go fuck themselves after declaring Conan would be his replacement, this wouldn’t be an issue. He’d have the respect of the American people.
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alicep9 2 months agoI can’t speak for most readers of this question, but as one of those who worked with and around Leno for the 10 years before the Tonight Show, he was a dick then, and we see the same signs of dickishness today. Always a champ at the fake smile, Leno’s “pals” learned he was unhappy when he’d back up the Harley to them and twist the accelerator. (A special memory: He did it to my parents as they had dinner next to the restaurant window - after I’d introduced them - because I went on when my slot came up, even though he’d just come in.) He let Helen be the one to tell you he was breaking a promise, he let Helen be the one to tell you to stop telling the joke he thought was too close to one he’d just thought of and wanted to tell. Why do so many who’ve really known him think he’s a douche? The list is too long. Why do strangers think he’s a douche? I dunno - but maybe they just sense what those who know him have seen first hand.
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patticake1601 2 months agoCraig Ferguson is the only really funny talkshow host. Kimmel is good and a little more polished than Ferguson but I prefer Ferguson.
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SitaSky 2 months agoI’ve never liked Jay even when I was younger and I would stay up late to watch Conan but lost my taste for him as well since it was always pretty much the same self-deprecation and skits night after night. I prefer Jimmy Kimmel and Jimmy Fallon who seem to genuinely like their guests and have a good time in their monologues and skits. I don’t have much of an opinion for David Letterman, he always seemed to hate his job or his life or everything…I guess some people might like that though.
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rickh11 2 months agoIt’s so funny how Leno gets a pass for the very things Dave has done. Leno told a similar joke about Palin’s daughter before Dave did no response. Dave tells it and tea baggers go nuts. Leno has identified himself as a bleeding heart liberal and he supports very liberal causes. Dave makes jokes about Bush and takes on O’Reilly and he’s suddenly a liberal Satan. Does anyone not remember how hard he went after Clinton?
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AngryUnicorn54 2 months agoSetting aside the political arguments - which is the single dumbest “reason” to love or hate Leno, or any of the non-Comedy Central talk shows for that matter - the reason that so many dislike Leno is in this article. The image of Jay Leno, whether it’s fair or not, is that he will absolutely be “a sniveling backstabber, unable to confront or defend even his most loyal supporters” anytime that the pressure is on him. When the Conan debacle went down, he had a chance to change that perception. All it would have taken was for Jay to say “this isn’t right, and I won’t be part of it” and walk away. He had NBC by the proverbial short and curlies. Even if he ultimately ended up coming back to The Tonight Show, the perception and narrative would have changed. There is no denying his success, but it’s because his brand of humor appeals to a set of people that still find The Simpsons offensive. If that’s your particular flavor, that’s fine, you’re more than welcome to like what you like, but the tide has changed. It’s pretty clear that the majority of the 18-34 year old demo likes the edgier - or younger - stuff. The simple truth of TV is that the 18-34, and to a slightly lesser extent the 25-54 demo, are the money demos. That’s what NBC wants, and they want to lock in the younger viewers now for a long time. I’m betting that Leno doesn’t fair as well there, or that there is clear evidence of the younger viewers leaving for the Jimmy’s, Conan, Comedy Central, and/or Ferguson. If that’s true, NBC doesn’t have a choice but to try and make a move. I’m not sure Fallon is the answer, and yes Leno will go elsewhere and most likely win, but it’s entirely possible that he won’t win as big. As for Conan, it’s hard to argue that NBC gave him a fair chance. The single biggest challenge for any talk show is finding its voice. I think that Conan was in the process of figuring out what from his old show would work and what wouldn’t. He should have been given more time, and certainly putting Leno on at 10 didn’t help, nor did making Conan move to California rather than letting him stay in New York where he would have had less competition for guests. To the points made about Conan’s lack of ratings now, he’s on cable. Cable numbers are vastly different than network (ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX) numbers. His numbers are going to be lower because many people (myself included) don’t have cable. Access to fewer homes = lower ratings, which is why cable ratings are essentially graded on a curve. As for me, I just find Jay’s delivery and jokes to be bad. He doesn’t make me laugh, nor do I enjoy his interview style, but I’m pretty clearly Team Coco, so I might not be totally unbiased here.
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MrSwearword 2 months agoAll this does is bring the lesson of the day regarding entertainment: Rule #19- The more you hate it, the stronger it gets. “You just got learned”/The More You give a fuck.
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tealchastainb 2 months agoAnd further, in what universe, is having a successful show w/ good ratings a “complication,” especially on a flailing network?
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tealchastainb 2 months agoThis article leaves out one of the most obvious reasons that people hate Jay Leno. Viewers and television executives alike never forgave Johnny Carson for choosing Jay over David Letterman to take over his coveted position. Since Carson was seemingly molding Letterman into being his replacement, many were shocked and angered when he instead chose Leno. That resentment never truly fizzled.
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chadc7 2 months agoYou should watch The Late Shift… Carson did not have anything to do with Jay Leno taking over The Tonight Show. That psychotic manager that Leno had and NBC executives prematurely forced Carson into retirement and side stepped Letterman. Johnny Carson never spoke to Leno again after that and only appeared on Letterman’s CBS show.
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amolad 2 months agoFallon is going to effectively kill The Tonight Show. While he’s a nice guy and gifted mimic, he’s awful as a talk show host. He’s not a comic like Leno or a true broadcaster like Letterman. He just “loves” everyone and every single guest he has is a “great man.” It’s cringeworthy.
If NBC lets him proceed with the same writers and producers, it will be a bigger fuck up than the Conan debacle. But you KNOW that Fallon’s agent and manager will make sure he has a iron-clad contract. -
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therealturdfergussen 2 months agoI’ve always liked Leno. I don’t want someone who’s manic, loud and all over the place right before I go to bed — so: no Fallon.
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anacombaz782 2 months agoKimmel is the best and I think he’s underrated. Leno, on the other hand is not funny and, let’s say it, kind of a creep. Jimmy Kimmel 5ever! Lol
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Searan 2 months agoCan’t stand Leno. I only watched him as a precursor to Conan’s Late Night show. I thought Leno was funny at first, then I realized how not funny he was by watching Conan, Dave, and Craig. Leno doesn’t connect to his audience like the other guys. Plus, he’s a dickwad for what he (and NBC) did to Conan. Long live Conan!
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