1. You can't seduce someone with a mixtape anymore. wordpress.com 2. Carrie Brownstein is more famous for being on Portlandia and in credit card ads than for being a member of Sleater-Kinney. Charles Sykes / AP 3. When people think totally un-indie bands are indie. 4. Kim Gordon and Thurston Moore are getting divorced. loudwire.com 5. When a band blows up, and you go from seeing them up close at a small club to having to be in the back of some gigantic venue. brooklynvegan.com Photo by Amanda Hatfield houselist.bowerypresents.com 6. When lo-fi bands go and make an over-produced album in an attempt to get on the radio. 7. The entire Drag City catalog is not on Spotify or Rdio. 8. That one Liz Phair album where she tried to sound like Avril Lavigne. 9. When a new band you like gets Best New Music on Pitchfork and suddenly everyone pretends to like them. 10. When a band you like doesn't get Best New Music, but is sooooo close, and you're like WTF? 11. You can't mail-order stuff by bands you've never heard from zines anymore. 12. When you hear your favorite band at Starbucks... databaseanswers.org 13. ...or one of their songs ends up on an "indie" Starbucks compilation. Via Twitter: @malitzd 14. Also, when bands end up on soundtracks for lame fake indie movies. 15. It's getting harder to find anyone who will actually buy your old Sarah Records singles on eBay. 16. When people say that bands that sound nothing like Pavement "sound like Pavement." matadorrecords.com 17. Having to get to festivals super early to see all the small bands and roasting in the afternoon sun. 18. Everyone's digitizing all their music and people aren't as impressed by your vinyl collection as they used to be. Via instagram.com 19. When people other than Stuart Murdoch sing on Belle and Sebastian songs. 20. Major labels. cdn.macrumors.com 21. Everything Death Cab for Cutie did after The Photo Album. 22. Internet hype has made it harder to know about bands long before other people... 23. ...and nothing will ever be obscure enough ever again.