Obama Hears A New Argument: Gun Control Could Win Democrats Votes
Gun control has moved “to the center, and past it,” say advocates. Quiet consideration of the force that really moves legislation: midterm elections.
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After years of arguing that Democrats should be willing to bear the political costs — lost votes in the South, in particular — of gun control measures, advocates Saturday began cautiously to make a different case. Gun control leaders and other progressive figures told BuzzFeed that, whether or not Democrats can get new legislation through Congress, they should be winning elections on the issue of guns.
Gun regulation “is moving to the center, and past it,” said Jim Kessler, who helped Sen. Charles Schumer pass gun control policy in the 1990s before founding the D.C. think tank, Third Way.
“For the first time in decades, Republicans are losing on social issues — they’re losing on same-sex marriage, they’re losing on contraception, and now they could lose on guns because their position is so intractable,” said Kessler. “Except for a vocal minority, people know and expect that something can be done.”
“It’s not that Democrats could do it and make some political gains,” added Mike Lux, founder of the consulting firm Progressive Strategies, and a former aide to President Bill Clinton. “It’s that they have to do it. It’s not only the base, it’s now the American people. They better damn well do it, or people will say what on earth is going on.”
President Obama Friday promised vague “meaningful action” and other political leaders, most vocally New York City Mayor Mike Bloomberg, have gone further, demanding specific regulations on the most dangerous weapons.
Advocates are now making a new case to Democratic congressional leaders in a language they can easily understand: That if Republicans block legislation — an almost inevitable outcome in the House of the Representatives — that fight could save Democrats from a repeat of the disastrous 2010 midterm elections.
If Republicans block gun measures, “our job is to make sure there’s a consequence and that they’re being held accountable by the public for stifling progress,” said Dan Gross, president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence.
Republicans, under this theory, are caught in a trap between the powerful National Rifle Association’s uncompromising demands, crucial to primarily politics, and the more moderate view of the general electorate.
“Republicans aren’t going to go against the NRA,” said Lux. “They will absolutely block it, and it’s going to look very bad for them, but their politics are such that they are far more worried about a primary from the right than they are at looking unreasonable to the general public.”
But Kessler added that fighting and losing could only take Democrats so far, and holds out hope for a deal.
“That scenario would work for them politically, but I’m more of the view that you win by getting something done, not just by talking about it.”
President Obama contemplated, and rejected, action on guns after earlier shootings, The New York Times reported Saturday. On the campaign trail — even after the shooting in Aurora, Colo., that left 12 dead — the president rarely spoke about gun legislation. The hope among advocates, is that the president’s “political calculus is different now than it ever has been before,” said Matt Bennett, a former Clinton aide who co-founded Third Way.
But Democrats have a long history of avoiding a confrontation on guns that could further alienate some of the white men Bill Clinton fought to retain. Since Vice President Al Gore’s failed presidential bid in 2000 — when he lost West Virginia and his home state of Tennessee — Democrats feared they had lost their hold on the rural vote.
“Bill Clinton has said he thought that Al Gore lost in 2000 because he went too far left on guns,” said Kessler.
Obama was elected, by contrast, with a national coalition that relied less on white men and wrote off Appalachian white voters and the states they dominate.
Bennett said the response Friday from donors and supporters of Third Way is “like nothing I’ve ever experienced before,” he said. “The magnitude of the horror of this is so overwhelming that people can’t wrap their heads around it.”
But for Democrats to make a concentrated legislative push, Bennett added, “it would require that this would end up being a pretty fundamentally different tragedy than the ones we’ve had lately.
“No one would have argued that in the wake of those past tragedies a push for new gun laws would have helped Democrats politically, but this time there’s a different possibility,” he said.
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judeo 5 months agoThe media didn’t waste any time fabricating the crime scene, originally the rifle was found outside and the 9MM hand guns were at the crime scene, now the media has a high powered rifle was the only weapon used to do the killing falling into the the descriptions of an assault rifle and conversations are now being circulated the killer used when originally all were killed in the class rooms. The media is falling into the patterns needed to get their message to the public although they are fabricated lies.
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judeo 5 months agoHindsight being 20/20. Now I read where the killer asked where the rest of the children were and the teacher wouldn’t tell so he shot her. How did the reporters know what was said when everyone in the room was murdered? First reports stated that the 9 MM was used in the killing now it’s a high powered rifle. The fabrication of this is taking off like a storm.
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scottk16 5 months ago@Kenny Williams, they are afraid of the stupid commentary from people like you, who always blame an object rather than the act of a human being. It makes the IQ of all the participants drop a few points. People’s rights don’t stop where your sensitive feelings begin, despite what you may think.
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Benjamin Sapiens 5 months agoIt’s cute that you accuse people like Kenny of being idiots, when you’re the one who seems to imagine that one can kill dozens of people with, say, a kitchen knife or a baseball bat just as easily as with a full-automatic assault rifle.
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Benjamin Sapiens 5 months agoBombings are rare, and nobody objects when we enact laws to keep bomb-making out of the hands of murderers. Killing with a bomb requires skill, patience, dedication, expertise and careful planning. A bomber must gather the materials, carefully build the bomb, plant it, and then successfully detonate it. A gunman simply has to find a gun, load it and open fire.
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Ansonia 5 months agoInstead of preventing sane people from owning guns, why don’t we lock up violent, mentally ill people ? There was a deluded person in Texas, back in the sixties, who was prevented from continuing to add to the number of people he had already shot by the person who shot him.
Around last Christmas, an 18 or 19 year old widow, living alone with her infant son, stopped two intruders (one was armed) who were breaking into her home by shooting the one who was armed. (Oh, and by the way, yes this young woman did try to get police help first. She was not someone impulsively using lethal force.)
About the tragedy in Connecticut, I would like to know if this kid had a history of violent outbursts. While it seems unrelated to anything, I would like to know if he lived with his mother, and when his mother purchased these guns.
I don’t necessarily see in this tragedy an argument for greater gun control. I do see in this tragedy, and in other relatively small incidents in schools in Connecticut ( a drowning death in a school swimming pool, Internet films of students fighting in inadequately supervised hallways) an argument for parents, who know each other and each other’s children well, working together to home school their kids. Schools, as we know them now, might really be as outdated as stage coaches. -
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tomd18 5 months agoActually, a bit over 10 years ago there was mass murder at a school in England and they ended up confiscating what guns the people were then allowed to have. Violent crime has risen sharply, including oddly enough, gun related crimes. The only thing that has decreased is the level of security that the good people of England feel and the probability that they won’t be victims of crime. To be fair, the rise in crime is not solely due to super-rigid gun control. Britain opened its borders back in the 80s and 90s to artificially create a multicultural “utopia” that the socialists dreamed would be a model for the world to follow… As is stands now, crime is skyrocketing, jobs are becoming scarce, and the most popular name for newborn boys in England is “Mohammed”… Do the math.
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deaddrift 5 months agoGoddamn it, you asshole Democrats, stop thinking about doing things because they’re ‘political winners’ and start doing them because they’re the right thing to do for the good of the nation. Who knows, helping the country might even turn out to be good for getting re-elected.
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