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Some Conservatives Question Gun Dogma In Wake Of Connecticut Elementary School Shooting

“This is not the gun’s fault, but guns *do* make this sort of atrocity much, much easier to commit.”

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Rosie Gray

A man grieves next to police staged at the site of a shooting near Sandy Hook Elementary School were a gunman opened fire on school children and staff in Newtown, Connecticut, on Dec. 14, 2012.

Image by Adrees Latif / Reuters

“Don’t politicize the shooting” has been a common refrain after the mass shootings of 2012, especially among Second Amendment–defending conservatives. But in the wake of Friday’s shooting at an elementary school in Connecticut, a few conservatives are bucking the usual routine and indicating an openness to question decades of maxims about access to guns.

“This is not the gun’s fault, but guns *do* make this sort of atrocity much, much easier to commit,” Townhall editor Guy Benson said on Twitter. “That’s indisputable.”

Benson maintained that he isn’t a “gun-grabber,” but “there is a sickness in society. Guns can both exacerbate& mitigate the consequences of that sickness.”

Conservative author David Frum was panned on Michelle Malkin’s Twitchy site for sending a sarcastic tweet this morning: “Obviously, we need to lower the age limit for concealed carry so toddlers can defend themselves.”

Frum followed up with a column arguing that “Every Day is the Day to Talk About Gun Control.”

“Almost uniquely in the world, the United States suffers massacre after massacre after massacre: in schools, in workplaces, in movie theaters, on city streets,” Frum wrote. “And after each such massacre, there follows a great hushing: don’t you dare mention the most obvious reason for this unique American horror”:

And I’ll say: I’ll accept no lectures about “sensitivity” on days of tragedy like today from people who work the other 364 days of the year against any attempt to prevent such tragedies.

It’s bad enough to have a gun lobby. It’s the last straw when that lobby also sets up itself as the civility police. It may not be politically possible to do anything about the prevalence of weapons of mass murder. But it damn well ought to be possible to complain about them — and about the people who condone them.

A more measured Philip Klein wrote that “Tho misguided, dont think debating gun control is politicizing. Politicizing is blaming political opponents for a tragedy.”

There are only a few, and other conservatives have stuck to the regular script, accusing President Obama of politicizing the shooting by giving a speech in which he called for “meaningful action” on Friday. Republican politicians, though they offer prayers and thoughts to the victims’ families, have been short on calls for change. The powerful National Rifle Association has been silent on the issue all day, canceling a Twitter chat featuring country singer Colt Ford and even deleting tweets relating to the chat. A spokesman for the NRA did not respond to a request for comment.

Benson and others stand out for daring to question, however cautiously, the absolutes in which people talk about guns. But Republican strategist Ana Navarro doubted that the seeds of change were truly being sown: “We go through the same futile exercise every time people are killed in a senseless shooting incident,” Navarro told BuzzFeed. “At the end not a damn thing changes.”

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    • chris87 6 months ago

      To the people saying teachers should carry fire arms, what is going to happen if a teacher goes nuts and creating ANOTHER masacre or being over powered by a student to hand over their gun? Its just exposing schools to another risk. And people are also saying if guns where harder to get hold of then these sickos would still use knives etc, look at countries with tighter gun laws and at how many times gun massacres occur or the alternative knife or any other fatal weapon massacres and the figures speak for them selves! How many more innocent lives have to be taken to realise

    • FireGuyRoy 6 months ago

      You can’t un-invent the gun, and by passing laws you are only punishing law abiding citizens. By taking away our rights. Do these actions constitute the the work of somebody who obeys the laws of the land? Let alone the laws of human decency? People can be so ignorant.

      • Calvin k 6 months ago

        This notion of “punishing” is non-sense. And gun ban is way too late and no one is talking outright ban.
        What’s sensible is making sure gun owners are responsible people, and if you want guns that are not for self-defence, yes you should prove you are capable of taking care of such responsibility. (including making sure your guns will not fall into the wrong hands). Do you think taking a driver’s test is “punishing”? right now it’s easier to get guns at some places legally than to drive a car. How’s making sure a WEAPON is in the right hand “punishing”.

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    • timh21 6 months ago

      I agree with deaddrift. Listen I’m all for stopping shit like this happening… But, stricter gun laws is NOT the answer. By issuing in a “gun ban” or stricter gun laws, you are only hurting law abiding citizens. You’re taking away their RIGHT as AMERICAN citizens to bear arms. If anything they need to loosen the gun laws and allow teachers to carry firearms as they do in other countries where this shit does NOT happen. Criminals will always find a way to arm themselves. How are you people not getting this!?

      • Calvin k 6 months ago

        Maybe we should look at other countries that also have criminal with guns, but much less massacres. You do realize all countries have thugs with guns, but ONLY in US massacres are in this high frequency (compare to countries with similar development), despite having the highest gun ownership already. All these massacres are not committed by actual organized criminals (who will go to length to arm themselves regardless). They are committed by supposedly normal citizens until the day of the massacre.

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    • deaddrift 6 months ago

      Someday we will have enough guns in circulation that we will finally be safe from the threat of these random massacres. Someday. But not yet. We need a lot more guns out there before we become safe.

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    • andrem2 6 months ago

      let’s just make bullets and bullet making supplies cost an abhorrent amount, I think Chris Rock said it best, $5000 per bullet, you’ll think long and hard before you go kill someone.

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    • GingerStarlite 6 months ago

      I just started a petition urging better gun and ammunition control on the White House petitions site, We the People. Will you sign it?  

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    • Home Building 6 months ago

      I want an (entry walkway or roadway) arch, fabricated from the guns confiscated from criminals as part of public art in every city in the USA. (Made certain that they clearly look like guns and are welded to be inoperable

    • Wombatish 6 months ago

      Take a look at the US’s bedfellows on the country chart (and yes, the data is population based, if not per capita).  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate OH THE NATIONS WITH GUN BANS (be it legal bans or just popular opinion) HAVE THE SAME AMOUNT OF MURDER. Nope. They really don’t. Straight lies shouldn’t be part of the discourse on such a touchy and literally life-threatening subject.

    • alisonw4 6 months ago

      @Noondozer - the middle east has no gun control either AND it’s a war zone where children as young as seven are given and taught how to use AK47’s. To use that comparison is the sign of a person without a rational or factual argument to fall back on.

    • introvert 6 months ago

      If everyone treated each other properly to begin with, we wouldn’t be having this discussion. Start with love, presence, understanding, contribution, and freedom.

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