Apple’s Podcast Disaster
Is the company that basically invented the podcast putting it out to pasture?
Apple’s podcast app is, without a doubt, the worst iOS app it’s ever made. Others have been poorly received or largely ignored, but this is unprecedented: With nearly 6,000 ratings, the app has just 1.5 stars in the App Store. Reviews range from harsh to despairing: “Horrible in every way,” reads the most recent. “Oh, and this app cost me $40 in overage uses on my data plan.”
“To say that it is not user friendly is an egregious understatement,” reads another. “Can we please see the whole title of the episodes?!? Is that too much to ask?” Other reviews complain of constant crashes, deleted podcasts, and a confusing interface.
Among the most damning reviews: “Worse than iOS Maps.”
Episodic online radio existed before Apple officially endorsed the “podcast” name. But it wasn’t until 2005, when Apple added podcast support to iTunes, that podcasting hit the big time. In iOS, podcasts were first supported via iTunes syncing and then directly through the iTunes app, where they flourished for years. In July, Apple broke them out into their own app — an iBooks-style standalone podcasting app.
This was considered progress by the podcast community, in theory. “I applaud Apple for breaking out podcasts into their own app,” says CollegeHumor’s Jeff Rubin, host of a popular, long-running comedy podcast called The Jeff Rubin Jeff Rubin Show. “The Apple podcast app makes podcasts more visible, so I’m a big fan of its existence.”
Soon after launch, though, it became clear that the app had problems. Business Insider savaged it in a review: “Hopefully Apple fixes all the bugs in the podcast app, because it’s reportedly removing podcasts from iOS iTunes, forcing people to use this app isntead. If this is what people have to deal with, it’s going to be a disaster.”
More than six months later, the problem is unresolved. The app’s launch disaster has transformed into an ongoing disaster, not just for users but perhaps for podcasting as a whole.
One popular podcaster and radio personality, who did not wish to be named but we’ll call “Dave,” said that the “double whammy” of the new iTunes design (iTunes 11) and the new podcast app have turn him off of using iTunes, which is by far his largest outlet, almost completely.
“When the app came out, my downloads went through the roof,” he says. But these promising early signs were misleading. The boost in downloads turns out to be the result of “bug” with the app, not a surge in actual listeners. The flaw, which triggered numerous downloads without user consent, wreaked havoc on both listeners’ data bills and podcasters’ hosting plans. “Our bills for that month were so much higher,” says Dave.
The app’s long term effects are less clear, but don’t appear to have been positive. Dave says his podcast has been growing for a long time across services, and that it’s difficult to calculate the negative effect the app may have had on his overall subscriber base. That said, he did notice “a tick down” in listenership, once the download bug was accounted for.
“I’ve had a few listeners tell me that they’ve had trouble downloading my podcast to their Apple mobile devices,” says the anonymous host of the Dumbass’s Guide to Knowledge,” a skeptics’ podcast, “even though it downloads perfectly to their home computer. I’m in the process of implementing new listening options that will hopefully make it easier and give people a choice of how to listen.”
Apple doesn’t release podcast listening numbers, and providers themselves are generally reluctant to talk about them because, among other reasons, they depend on Apple for good placement in the iTunes Store and podcast storefront. But Seth McFarland, creator of the popular alternative podcast listening app, Downcast, has certainly felt the effects: He says he saw a noticeable increase in downloads after Apple’s Podcasts app was released.
“I was pretty worried about what it would do to the market since I felt like they would provide what 99% of people want or need in a podcast app,” he says, “but I do get a lot of feedback in email an on Twitter from users who have moved to Downcast due to frustrations with it.”
More worrying, perhaps, is the simple fact that Apple hasn’t done anything to fix an app that is so obviously in need of help. The company is not short on resources, but appears to have dedicated virtually none to the app that serves as the sole official way to download podcasts on iOS. “At least for my show, about 80% of the listening comes from Apple devices,” says Rubin. One wonders if Apple is treating its podcast app like it did its Remote app, which was reported to have been created by a team of one.
“If Apple really had an interest in pushing it, I bet they could double the number of people consuming podcasts just by redesigning the iTunes store,” says Rubin says.
Podcast listeners are starting to feel abandoned, too. A recent review reads: “Crashes… hangs up… utterly useless. Podcasts worked just fine in the music app. Why take something that works and break it for no good reason?”
It’s a curious contrast, to be sure. Podcasts have a higher profile now than ever before, and have launched or re-launched careers in spectacular ways — comedian Marc Maron, for example, has parlayed his podcast into a radio show and a TV series on IFC. But as podcasts have become more interesting, Apple seems to have become less interested.
“Apple is by far the #1 most important company in podcasts,” says Rubin, “but it seems like a really low priority for them.”
Apple has not yet responded to a request for comment.
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TylerNTyler 3 months agoIf you delete the app after downloading a podcast, it gives you the ability to play it thru your iTunes on your phone. You have to download it when you want more podcasts, but its a nice loophole.
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moskowdisco 3 months agoDOWNCAST is the solution. Stitcher is irritating and Podcasts is, obviously, a shit show.
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stevei5 4 months agoApple has made some major mistakes that on the surface may appear small. When podcasts started I downloaded them via various programs and dropped them onto iTunes so I could listen via my iPod. Then iTunes started doing podcasts and I used that up until last year when it became just unbearable to use anymore. At the same time the music app in iTunes also became very unstable, especially when iTunes Match was turned on, so it had to be turned off, negating the point of iTunes Match. When Amazon brought out there cloud music service I tried that and while it wasn’t perfect it is a LOT better and has a LOT fewer crashes than the built in Apple Music app. So I moved to use Amazon instead. I then got a Nexus 7 tablet as I liked the size and it was a hell of a lot less expensive than the iPad/ possible iPad Mini (at the time) and I discovered DoggCatcher which is an outstanding podcast app. So I moved to use that for podcasts. As I was using Amazon for music I may as well just use both on Android and thats what I did…..Apple was out of the loop, totally in just a few weeks. They had fallen behind, they had lost the plot, missed their own goal of being easy to use and “It just works” reliable. Since then I have purchased a Nexus 4 at half the price of an iPhone 5 and have many more options open to me. I WAS a true Apple fanboy, but, as with Microsoft back in the day, they let me down…..badly and there was something better….so I moved to it. I don’t hate them, I still have an iMac, the AppleTV went and I now have a Roku which I am much happier with. They are just focused on creaming off as much money as possible by doing as little work as possible. That never lasts. Never. Many have tried, all have failed. They need to pick up the ball again and run, they can beat the rest, but only, ONLY if they TRY and they are not doing that right now. So good luck to them, but I am no longer in the market for their mobile devices.
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stephens21 4 months agoYou know what makes me angry about this article? Where was the journalistic outrage when Google neglected their Google Listen podcast app for over a year? Listen didn’t even work on the Nexus S after the Gingerbread update, but Google refused to even acknowledge the problem. iOS users, on the other hand, get a full court press from the media at the slightest hint of distress… what’s up with that?
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stevei5 4 months agoGoogle was killing that product, though we did not know that at the time. There were and are better products available on Android now and there were then too. So it was no great loss to be honest, though I agree they could have moved quicker to shut the product down, rather than keeping people hanging on in the hope of an upgraded app.
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