Occupy Wall Street Proposed List Of Demands
We demand…two trillion dollars! I’m sorry, is this an economic movement or an evil villain convention? I think we can all agree that something needs to change in our country but a lot of these demands are outrageous.
The list is viewable here at OccupyWallstreet.org and is still under discussion as a forum topic. This is not a comprehensive list nor indicative of individual #OccupyWallStreet protestor views.
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shirtbrigade a year agoNote that all this does is make people whole for their loss. It would not serve to enrich them even though what was done to them was with the ultimate in malice, pure treason against the public and public policy. Demand 101, create a fund of 9 trillion dollars, like Bernanke did illegally, only, this is FOR AMERICAN CITIZENS, not UBS who hides billions in evading taxes from our collection efforts. The fund will be used when the next phase is implemented. The next phase is to unwind all naked short sell trades. Every last one of them. All proceeds go to damaged long investors. The “exchange” was not exchanging. It was financially raping. The stock sold was counterfeit. Its not a hard concept to understand. Every penny stolen by hedge funds through naked short selling that made it to a politicians finances is to be returned ten fold, as a penalty or they will do it again and again and again. Insider trading, such as helping controlling insiders sell restricted stock without Form 4 and without form 144 shall be subject to a 100 times damages penalty and every penny of proceeds becomes the damage figure. All of this is to be retroactive. Suddenly, 9 trillion dollars are returned to the very people who thought they were risking their money ON IDEAS TO HELP EVERYONE, TO GROW A BUSINESS, CURE AIDS, DEVELOP DRUGS and so on. These people, once raped and denuded, no longer have money to invest. The money ends up with the crooks who will NEVER, I repeat, NEVER consider a legitimate investment. Why risk a penny on a legitimate investment when you can steal more and not have any risk in stealing? The imbalance this creates is all encompassing. This movement, occupy wall street, has only a little insight. For example, case 1:02 cv 1242 in the ED VA District Court, once all the 13 year old evidence is made public, if ever, will rock your mind. Remember this case, remember the evidence proves beyond any doubt, what I say above is absolutely true. What I further suspect is, UBS, with its ultra rick client base, stored the money outright stolen from the trading systems by way of illegal short selling (naked) and illegal insider sales (not just sales made when the parties knew there was very bad news coming and false good news in the press, but worse, sales made without form 4 or form 144, invisible sales). Why would they risk paying taxes after taking such ultra risk to begin with? It all makes sense. Follow the bouncing thief. THINK.
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allisior a year agoReal demands should be to change the federal criminal code, remove the ancient Anglo-Saxon classification of “FELONY” which means nothing anymore today and it’s a demeaning term. replace it with just a sentence appropriate with the crime committed. Violent crimes can be punished more drastically than non-violent ones and most non-violent violators should only be fined and not given a criminal record. Recreational drugs should be decriminalized. Personal,confidential information shall not be made public and shall only be available to law enforcement. English should be made official language. The States and Federal Government should not pander to Hispanics or any other non-European groups. No language translations in voting booths as naturalized U.S. Citizens must already know the basics of the English language to become citizens. Close all third-world immigration. Clarify that the USA is a Christian Country. Under Amendment 1, States are free to make Christianity their own official religion. The USA and all its institutions were built exclusively by Christian Europeans. All laws passed by Congress and the States must uphold the values of our European Civilization and no other. Make it a crime for politicians to pass laws without the consent of their constituents. OWS-Global Revolution Activist.
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merf a year agoIf we could put together a petition to repeal SBX211 (retro active immunity) given to judges for taking bribes from the county and given to all governmental employee’s that gave the bribes, Then you would put yourself in a very stong possition for further negotiations. LET ME PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY. 1. judges get paid a state salary of $178,789.00 a year with medical and retirement benefits up to 75% of their salary from the state. 2. Los Angeles County is currenty giving the judges an additional $57,688.00 per year per judge. there are 460 judges that equals to $26,536,480.00 per year. 3. in the case of sturgeon vs Los Angeles County those payments were found to be unconstitutional / illegal. after that decission the judges paid a lobbyist to pass SBX211 ( retro active immunity from prosecution) 4. There is no bigger user of the court then L.A.County, put it this way, if you and I were in court and my name is L.A. County and your name is OWS and I hand the judge $57,688.00 and I tell him I’m concerned about his retirement and I want to give you some suplimental benefitts. THAT IS A BRIBE. 5. If we demand to repeal SBX211 and demand that corperations and governmental agencie’s are held to the same standards of the LAW that everyone else is held to the LAW. then we could exspect juctice and fair play. 6. demand that the $26 and a half million spent on suplamental benefitts be appropriated towards a fair and open banking commitee. ( don’t worry about those judges they allready well compensated by the STATE as per the CA constitution.) Also if SBX211 was repealed the the judges would be forced to return all the money they took from the county. APPOXIMATELY $400 MILLION. If you want a bank oversight committee you will need to hire alot of accountants. $400 million plus $26.5 million annually would be a very good way to actually do it. 7. here is a list of reasons for the petition to repeal SBX211. A. SBX211 does not restore due process B. SBX211 violates Article 1 section 9 C. SBX211 violates the 14th amendment (no equal protections) D. SBX211 violate checks and balances between legislative and Judicial powers. E. Judges do not disclose the county payments at the onset of any trial where the county is either a party to the case or has a financial interest. (Judges violate Judicial codes of ethics) F. Judges refuse to recuse themselves when requested under CCP170 G. Judges find themselves unbiased and then file an order striking statement. ADDITIONAL FOOD FOR THOUGHT BELOW Robert kennedy spoke out against retro active immunity…”QUOTE” (The very idea of “retroactive immunity” … is so radical, so repugnant to the most basic principles of the “rule of law,” that only one prior attempt can be found in recent history (at least from my research): the efforts by some in Congress (in 1965) to enact a law retroactively legalizing the mergers by six large banks which clearly — as a federal court found — were illegal under our nation’s antitrust laws. The banks knew when they merged that they were almost certainly violating anti-trust laws. But they did it anyway. And when courts began ruling that their behavior was illegal, they ran to Congress to demand that a law be passed granting them amnesty, claiming that the consequences would be ruinous if they were held accountable under the law. ) But the very concept of retroactive amnesty, the idea that corporations could break the law and then have Congress pass a special law legalizing their lawbreaking conduct, was so profoundly offensive to Sen. Robert Kennedy (who had been the Attorney General when the banks broke the law with their mergers), as well as then-Attorney General Nicholas Katzenbach, that they engaged in extraordinary efforts to try to put a stop to this Congressional travesty.when the banks broke the law with their mergers), as well as then-Attorney General Nicholas Katzenbach, that they engaged in extraordinary efforts to try to put a stop to this Congressional travesty. Robert Kennedy could not stop them. SECTION FROM SBX211 This bill would provide that no governmental entity, or officer or employee of a governmental entity, shall incur any liability or be subject to prosecution or disciplinary action because of benefits provided to a judge under the official action of a governmental entity prior to the effective date of this bill on the ground that those benefits were not authorized under law.
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laurab23 a year agoLol, these aren’t the demands. This is a subjective and personal list of demands, not what all of occupy stands for. So don’t hate occupy for this terribly, terribly compiled list, or for all of the terribly compiled lists that seem to be popping up all over the internet. The most decided demands are: Reinstate glass steagall to end the mixing of commercial and investment banking activities. end corporate personhood get money out of the political system (mostly by means of glass steagall and ending corporate personhood) create fair taxation (among the wealthy and corporations as well) create programs for more jobs if you get to personal grievances, there are separate levels of agreement- to ending the war, to ending certain aspects of the war on drugs, to education reform, to ending foreclosure fraud, etc, etc. It’s basically just leaning toward a better economic system. Of course there are personal grievances. This doesn’t and will never mean that all of occupy stands for it. Occupy is not socialist, communist, anarchist, etc. It’s a movement, not a political party or a political system, trying to create a better system and a hopeful economy.
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meeeeeeeeeesh a year agodoes anyone here understand that an audit of the Federal Reserve shows that the agency “play Russian roulette” with the U.S. dollar over the course of more than $26 trillion worth of bank bailouts??! the fact that the Occupy Movement demands only a total of 2 trillion dollars to reinvest in our ENVIRONMENT, SOCIETY AND INFRASTRUCTURE is MODEST compared to what the fuckin banks were allotted…how is it that the banks were given hand outs from the federal amounts GREATER than what ALL AMERICANS EARN ANNUALLY WHEN PUT ALL TOGETHER???? get real and wake up- if you’re not a million, billion or trillionaire, you need to care and support the OCCUPY MOVEMENT because YOU ARE NEGATIVELY AFFECTED BY THE BANK BAILOUT.
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sherryledett a year agoI read the demands earlier today. I’m only going to respond to one. c) A constitutional amendment that will act as a “second bill of rights” as proposed by President Franklin D. Roosevelt: that every American has a human right to employment, to health care, to a free and full education … As any parent with kids in the public school system can tell you, education isn’t Free and never will be. I pay over 180.00 a month for my school district monthly thru property taxes. I have paid for 1000.00+ in extras since the school year started and have been solicited for more I chose not to get pulled into. College is not free either, they are paid for thru taxes by everyone, through tuition paid by students or organizations that give scholarships or a dozen other ways. Education has never been free and there is no way any movement is going to make it so. Someone somewhere along the line is going to have to pay the bills. Please get real here!!! Stop pretending!!! Never Never land was so named for a reason.
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michaelp40 a year agoThis is just the beginning. The representative democracy has done its job. As we see it now, this flavor of democracy guarantees that the entanglements of power elites will persist. The only thing that changes is the power elites’ participants. Here is an overview of the steps which may bring long-lasting, desired results to the lives of our- and the next generations. Eliminate the persistent sources of social ills and create the new socio-political order by discussing the development and implementation of the steps proposed below.
1. Disband political parties. Political parties do not act in the best interest of citizen, do not have long-term goals to address the global sustainability. Adaptable long term policies are the necessity when the development or continuance of socio-economic programs takes more then four years. (China is taking over because they have long-term policies). Most of the effort of politicians is focused on getting elected and on confronting the other parties (in multiparty representative democracy).
2. Disband legislatures. They are useless and counterproductive anyway. Without political parties the House of Representatives/Senate/Parliament will be useless. We do not need forums for competing egos and self-serving interests.
3. Create horizontal common participation layers to deal with public policy issues, such as: health, education, welfare, transportation, communication, justice, taxation, confidentiality, public security, executive governance, etc. Everybody should have access to these layers to participate in the complete process:, raise an issue, analyze the causes, define the requirements of desired outcomes, propose solutions, analyze the cost/benefit of proposed solutions, select the optimum and feasible solution, develop the implementation (legislation), oversee the implementation, execution and the feedback mechanisms.
4. Establish the mechanism for the public development of fiscal policies. In the long term the structure of the fiscal system should be reviewed and, if required, redesigned. The issues are the income+consumption tax versus tax on not-invested income. The second issue is the regional distribution and allocation of fiscal policies. In the short term all citizens would participate in periodic adjustments of distribution of resources and the adjustments of sources of resources. For example - this can be implemented as ‘single person’-‘single participation’ in deciding how much change a share in health care, education, military, etc. In the same binding survey, citizen would decide what changes should be done to the distribution of the collection of resources, i.e.: how much change in the taxation of people with the income in the range $0 to $11,999, $12,000 to 23,999, corporate income tax, small business income tax, etc.
5. Establish the executive structures to deal with day-to-day operations within each layer.
6. As most of the above activities should be transparent, access to some of them will have to be constrained. The confidentiality layer should be tasked with defining the scope and time-lines of confidential issues. The system outlined above would provide a dynamic balance between long-term stability and short-term agility with the mechanisms to provide and process the feedback to minimize the impact of errors. This would be accomplished by unconstrained public participation, orderly development and adjustments of legislation and would lead to the public oversight of the execution of policies. With the increased level of public education (compared to that in the eighteenth century), cloud computing, semantic web, and authentication, the development of the system outlined above is feasible today. The representative democracy was developed by courageous people who followed an excellent methodology. They have considered the sources of ills of society, analyzed their socio-political environment (education and access to sources of information), discussed the options, and selected the solution. The whole process was constrained by the reach of a horse and buggy, the information was exchanged by quill-written letters and verbally in face-to-face meetings. -
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reynaldom a year agoWTF!!! open the borders thats outrages that will ruin the economy for us US born citizens and haven’t they noticed that USA is broken they will never give in to 2 trillion dollars thats just to much to ask some of these are for good causes but its just to much to ask for.
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spazzlecrayola a year agoWow. People actually believe this is real? Sad. They should teach comedic theory. In elementary school. Before these people have a chance to drop out.
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jasonmit a year agoYeah, this’ll create sooooo man jobs, man! No wait, it’ll completely destroy our if not the entire world’s economy and place us in transnational socialism. Either that’s their motive or they were on acid when they came up with these ideas. And you notice how they just stuck that racial & gender thing in there? Guess if we’re against this, we hate women and black people.
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Happy Dude a year agoAgain, the ONLY OFFICIAL statement is here:
http://www.dangerousminds.net/comments/first_official_statement_from_the_occupy_wall_street_movement/ Official demands to follow, but they’re voting by group consensus rather than some PR scheme paid for by elites, so sorry if they’re “talking points” aren’t what you’re used to. For the record, besides the $20 an hour thing most of these are pretty good ideas. A trillion on infrastructure and a trillion to restore natural resources, while chosen too arbitrarily, are not that crazy when you consider that we’re around the $1 trillion a year point on counter-productive military spending. Spending that increases the amount of USEFUL stuff (like renewable electricity or healthcare) in circulation is not necessarily inflationary (or as inflationary) as spending on things meant to blow things up / be blown up. ps - In negotiation it’s a good idea to start asking for more than you’re happy to settle for. Sorry if this stuff blows your minds. -
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mandabear82 a year agochrist on a cracker! i’m glad this isn’t real. i don’t think they have any official demands yet. that’s kinda been the problem all along. should have worked that out first before showing up with nothing more than anger and a posterboard…
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