Jay-Z just gave an in-depth interview with Van Jones on CNN — and when asked about his marriage with Beyoncé, the rapper was surprisingly candid.
Now, for those of you who lived under a rock for the entirety of 2016, let me bring you up to speed: Jay-Z allegedly had some sort of ~marital indiscretion~ in the past, Beyoncé released an album about it, and the world went briefly insane.
The pair stayed together, and nowadays they seem to be doing just fine.
So in Sunday's interview, Van Jones asked Jay-Z a whole bunch of questions about their marriage, starting with why they fought so hard to get it back on track.
"Well, it's my soulmate. This person I love," he said.
"For us, we chose to fight for our love, for our family, to give our kids a different outcome. To break that cycle."
And when Jones referred to the two as a "celebrity couple," Jay-Z corrected him.
"We were never a 'celebrity couple.' We were a couple who just happened to be celebrities. Like, real people."
When asked what his advice would be for other men who have made mistakes in their relationships, Jay-Z talked about the importance of acknowledging the pain you've caused, even when it's difficult to hear.
"The best apology is changed behavior," he noted.
Jones also asked if Jay-Z would have forgiven Beyoncé if she'd been the one to cheat.
"I hope," he said. "Because I love her the same way. No matter — no matter what side, I love her the same way."
"Her strength...She's the strongest woman I know. Her and my mother, they're battling for number one," the rapper concluded.
You can watch the full segment from Jones' interview here: