As government members line up to support immigration minister Peter Dutton's attacks on refugees, BuzzFeed News can reveal how one influential figure in the party feels about the issue.
BuzzFeed News published a profile of government whip Ewen Jones last year, following a long interview in his parliamentary office.
At the time we didn't publish the long answer Jones gave about refugees living in his Queensland electorate.
But reviewing the transcript, it's clear that Jones doesn't agree with Peter Dutton's comments that many refugees are not "numerate or literate" and "these people would be taking Australian jobs".
Senior government ministers have this morning defended Dutton, with foreign minister Julie Bishop describing his comments as a "reality check".