"We're doing this over the phone, but if it was in person, I wouldn't be able to look you in the eyes," she told Carey. "That's how nervous I get around celebrities. And sometimes my head starts talking, like, 'Oh my gosh, I look stupid, I feel stupid, I'm dumb.'"
Cardi also explained that part of her hesitation toward meeting celebrities comes from the fear that she will "get close to a celebrity and feel like we have a connection, and then out of nowhere they do some funny shit and disappoint me."
"If you don't ride hard for me or you do some funny shit, I'm going to feel a certain type of way. My husband always tries to tell me, 'You can't think like that because you've got to network and this is not real life. You got to understand that.'"
Mariah then asked Cardi, "Do you think that the business has changed you, or have you seen it change other people who you may have known before they came up?"
"That's why I stay away from people," Cardi replied. "My fans want me to interact with more artists, but if I love their music, I don't want to meet them because I don't want to hate them."
Well, it certainly looks like Cardi meeting Mariah (even if it was just over the phone) went well: The two exchanged words of praise after the interview was published.