May 14, 2020

    Ariana Grande Held Back Tears As She Explained Why She Stopped Doing Interviews After Being Called A "Diva" For Defending Herself

    "It does make you wanna quiet down a little bit," Ariana said, discussing the double standard between men and women. "I'm tired of seeing women silenced by it."

    Ariana Grande just passionately defended the word "diva" in a recent interview, and you can bet that she made SEVERAL points on the subject. Buckle up, kids, it's time for some schooling!

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    So! In case you missed it, Ariana cohosted a radio show (that has been iconically nicknamed Yuh Radio, of course) with Zane Lowe on Wednesday.

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    Throughout the course of the show, the "Thank U, Next" singer spoke about a whole bunch of things, but one of the more interesting and candid parts came when Zane began discussing how negative connotations of the word diva are "an insult to strong female energy".

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    First point made!

    Quickly agreeing, Ariana jumped in and said that people being divas was actually a good thing. "It means they've got an opinion and a drive and artistic integrity," she explained. "They've got something to say."

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    However, opening up about her own experiences with the word, which is often used as an insult to suggest that the person is difficult to work with or high maintenance, Ariana revealed she actually stopped doing interviews because she'd get called a diva for defending herself.

    Ariana added that, in the past, her words were often "manipulated" against her if she spoke up and defended herself, which is hardly ever the case with men, who are often praised for speaking out and having an opinion.

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    She said: "If I have an opinion artistically or if I am directing something or if I have something to say regarding a choice that's being made with my career, it always was in the past kind of manipulated and turned into this negative thing."

    "I don't see that with men," she continued. "When men express their opinions or defend themselves or are directing something and making notes on something, they're brilliant and they're geniuses and yeah, what a boss."

    "It's just so not the same thing with women, which I hope we can work on fixing," Ariana added. "It's not always that way. But it does make you wanna quiet down a little bit, but I'm trying to also say fuck that. I'm tired of seeing women silenced by it."

    Me listening to Ariana make points.

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    But Ariana said that the word and the negativity surrounding it "kinda fucks you up a little bit", revealing that she'd questioned whether she should be vocal and express herself.

    "Of course, it's not an all the time thing, but it is definitely still prominent, but I'm trying to just say 'fuck it' and let go of that trauma," Ariana continued, adding that she still wanted to be able to do interviews and "not be afraid" to be herself.

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    "I do have a lot to say and I do enjoy talking to people," she said. "I do wanna do interviews and share with people and not be afraid to be myself."

    When Zane pointed out that during her Sweetener and Thank U, Next album releases she'd sat back and let her music do the talking instead of doing a ton of promotional interviews, Ariana got visibly emotional and held back tears.

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    "That's gonna make me cry," she said in response to Zane saying that she'd succeeded in letting her work speak for itself. "Thank you, I appreciate that."

    You can watch the full interview with Zane Lowe right here.

    Ben Henry is a celebrity reporter for BuzzFeed UK and is based in London.

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