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Another Round, Episode 8: Shmoney For The Ancestors

On this week's episode: The beginning of a never ending list of ways men gotta do better, the art of the clapback, and the wisdom of the inimitable Rachel Kaadzi Ghansah.

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This week we sit at the feet of the woman we're writing in for President of the United States in 2016, your favorite writer's favorite writer Rachel Kaadzi Ghansah.

This episode is another we taped in the weeks before our launch but the words she preached are timeless so it's okay!


She schools us on black art, picking the perfect title for a piece, and fighting to protect the sanctity of your voice.

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Heben and Tracy provide a chorus of "mmmm" and "speak on it!"


Here are 10 random things you can look forward to hearing on this week’s episode:


8. "[Bobby Shmurda] collapsed Flatbush to the islands to Africa in 15 seconds."

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This episode features music from Donwill (follow him on Twitter) and Jean Grae!

Heben Nigatu and Tracy Clayton cover everything from race, gender and pop culture to squirrels, mangoes, and bad jokes, all in one boozy podcast.

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