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Another Round, Episode 7: Living In America

On this week's episode: self-care in the wake of never-ending police violence, dealing with hair microaggressions and more of Tracy's corny jokes. Subscribe on iTunes!

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Welcome to the first ever ALL Heben and Tracy episode of Another Round!

Update: We re-aired this episode in July 2016 in the wake of the killings of Alton Sterling and Philando Castile. Listen to the updated version:


This episode, we talk about the importance of self-care, especially for black people, in an era of what seems like a constant barrage of news stories about black deaths.

Tracy, for example, got her nails done for the first time since prom as part of her pampering plan. They were cute then but they look like this now.

Note: this episode was recorded before the most recent events in Baltimore, which is why it wasn't mentioned or referenced by name.

We also answer some listener mail, giving advice on how to deal with the hazards of being the proud owner of a head full of natural hair, many of which can be seen this video we did with BuzzFeedVideo!

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Here are six random things you can look forward to hearing on this week's episode:


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This episode features music from Donwill (follow him on Twitter) and Jean Grae!

Listen to the original version from 2015.

Heben Nigatu and Tracy Clayton cover everything from race, gender and pop culture to squirrels, mangoes, and bad jokes, all in one boozy podcast.

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