if you gonna make arguments about the ethical issues—animal liberation, equal rights, etc. or enviornmental issues, the arguments are never gonna end. simply, let us just all go back to the little vegan kids logic—we want animals to be happy, not in pain or dead. and yeah, as a vegetarian myself, i have to admit that fake meat are gross..this is just my personal opinion. some people probably think fake meat tastes pretty alright. anyway, i can get try to get the fuck over it for animals sake lol but i can never get over cheese. vegan cheese are fucking rank and expensive, therefore lol all i can do is being a vegetarian, and thats it. i dont wanna cry myself to sleep every night for not being able to eat all sorts of fancy cheese and chocolate. fuck that fucking shit.