Ronnie was the crowned prince of 1980’s double-speak.
Add his Alzheimers, and his wife’s astrologer into the mix and you got a guy that will utter anything he sees on a teleprompter.

lol internet argument

“The basic right to form free trade unions and to strike.” Go Wisconsin, it’s your birthday, you gonna party like it’s your Birteday…

I hate the way sites like this completely polarize the debate and turn it into a right vs left issue. It seems to me that people just want value for money all around and that the arguments have become completely reactionary. Have some damn respect for each other. I’m not a ring wing lunatic if I want public sector pay to be kept in line with the private sector, and I’m not a bleeding heart liberal if I want teachers and nurses to have a good standard of life and the same rights as me.  STOP BEING SO GOD DAMNED DRAMATIC AND HATE FILLED

Bwahahaha! Fact check, ever hear of it? Reagan was against unionizing against the taxpayers/voters. Completely different than the private sector unions in Poland that were fighting against the PUBLIC SECTOR communists. Seriously, you guys are trying too hard. You lost the vote in November, you lost the debate, and you will legislatively on this issue one way or another. The States will go bankrupt without putting the public sector unions in their place—BEHIND the people paying their outrageous compensation packages. You know, the people they work for?

i dont think people understand. if the bill passes in wisconsin, that means that money won’t automatically be taken out of workers’ pay checks by the government and given to unions. rather, the workers have the right to decide if they want to give money to the unions to represent them. its giving them a choice, they will still have the ability for ”collective bargaining”… all its doing is taking away the automatic power unions have and the automatic dock in wages that workers feel.

Like Jesus Christ, Ronald Reagan would not be accepted in today’s republican tea-party…

Oh shit subby! You weren’t even so much as a spermatazoa when Reagan was elected.

blah blah blah - the difference is that in Poland, the unions fought socialism, in the U.S., the teachers unions behave like the Communist Party: overpay goverment workers, you have no choice but to be in a union, you have no choice over which candidates get the money from unions, you have no voice unless you agree with the union (and better protect your kneecaps if you don’t). There is no comparison. The unions in the U.S. are shamefully on the complete opposite side of Liberty than the unions in Poland that gave their life to fight back against socialism.

I thought he was going to tell us being a *unicorn* was a basic human right, so disappointing

I advise anyone with interest to watch HBO’s outstanding documentary on Reagan (called “Reagan”… why not). It will surprise anyone… left, right, whoever. Conservatives invoke his name and policies, often in support of policies Reagan himself might have opposed. Watch the documentary if you can, or, if unavailable, read this piece I found by Joshua Green, “Reagan’s Liberal Legacy.” It might be a little harsh on Reagan, but a good passage sheds some light on Reagan’s sometimes-left-leaning maneuvers: “A sober review of Reagan’s presidency doesn’t yield the seamlessly conservative record being peddled today. Federal government expanded on his watch. The conservative desire to outlaw abortion was never seriously pursued. Reagan broke with the hardliners in his administration and compromised with the Soviets on arms control. His assault on entitlements never materialized; instead he saved Social Security in 1983. And he repeatedly ignored the fundamental conservative dogma that taxes should never be raised.” http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2001/0301.green.html (Disclaimer: By the way, I’m libertarian, and rather conservative when it comes to economic policies. That being said, there are fundamental flaws with how Republicans generally refuse to accept the sometimes-reality that some government programs are necessary, that some government funding is required, and that taxes do keep our infrastructure and system floating.)

I’m as liberal as it gets but he didn’t say that anywhere in that video.

OTOH, it is nice to see the wingnutters admitting that WI is all about Union busting, and nothing to do with “balancing budgets” (something that Reagan didn’t do, but Clinton did, btw).

See wingnutter comments below for great examples of the cognitive dissonance I was describing!  “BUT HE DIDN’T MEAN PUBLIC UNIONS! REAGAN HATED POLICE AND FIREMAN AND I READ IT ON DAILYCALLER SO IT MUST BE TWOO!”

He was talking about private unions. There are several fundamental differences.

belong to unions all you want. just quit demanding $80,000/year and a full pension to dig ditches.

If only cognitive dissonance weren’t the Teaparty’s SOP…

republicans seem to forget that Reagan himself was president of a union (the screen actors guild)