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    • JohnJoe

      Oh no, a gender stereotype in advertising, how surprising. All men like sports, all women like shopping. The true horrifying thing is that I have known no shortage of people in my life who would be happy to say things like this on both sides of the aisle. Plenty of people joke that most boys do best in gym and women in shopping, but when you ask students themselves what their favorite class is and you get a shopping, or gym, it’s much more worrying. I was babysitting a younger cousin, 6-7th grade or so, and a group of her friends and asked them what their favorite book was, 3 of the 4 said they hadn’t read a book, even for classes, since 2nd grade and later on one said her goal in life was to marry rich…..

    • JohnJoe

      I think that many of the gender equality people have a point. Yes, both of them should be quite embarrassed by what happened and horrified by the results. Yet much of this ridicule seems to be focused on the “how stupid” it was for the girl to be caught in these pictures, and commentators are pointing at this and wondering why it wasn’t stupid for the boy. It was, but one can argue it was not nearly on the same level of idiocy simply by pointing at the reactions the image causes. In our society, right or wrong, this kind of public behavior is utterly undesirable from anyone, but particularly women. Depending on the cultural memory of these images and the publicity in her direct area, these images will directly impact her future job and relationship opportunities, heck 30 years down the line her kids could Google her name and find out that she did this. As a society we celebrate men who are promiscuous, thus it wasn’t nearly as idiotic, from a certain standpoint, for the man to participate in this activity as the girl. Besides the girls friends and family it wouldn’t be unheard of for someone to buy him a beer to congratulate him for such an achievement as dubious as that “achievement” may be. Accordingly, it is hardly surprising that more people are ridiculing her as she has made a graver error in the eyes of the public.  I also find it quite interesting that though all websites now seem to be blurring the face of the girl, many don’t bother with her male counterpart, perhaps further gender stereotyping the act to place her as the victim.

    • JohnJoe

      So because someone with a viewpoint you disagree with promotes a study it is invalid? Then all of your studies are invalid to everyone that disagrees with you? Besides, I’m not even referring to MRA websites. I’m referring to statistics collected by the US government, and numerous universities. http://fermat.unh.edu/~mas2/ID41-PR41-Dominance-symmetry%20-%20corrected-pg255.pdf—- Interestingly enough some overly attached boyfriends do count though, they are labeled as stalkers. Which I’m sure happens on both sides, but is something to think about.—-If you reread my comment you’ll notice that I certainly did not claim that women in general are more often the aggressors. As to your mortality argument, yes more women than men are killed in domestic violence each year and in many cases men do more physical damage(though the disparity is not as high as you might think at a 3:2 ratio). But all the same society does everything it can to protect physically and emotionally battered women, why aren’t men at least acknowledged as victims as well. Instead they are treated as a joke, after all a girl can’t hurt a big strong man right?—-Not remotely worthy of a response—- Ah a rational answer. this would be slightly understandable, if it was a new scenario and not quite so universal. But this type of advertising perpetuates the stereotype that only women are victims and causes serious problems in the public and legal sectors for men. Around 50% of domestic violence cases are mutual brawling, and 24% or so are started by women (Straus, M. A., Gelles, R. J. and Smith Ch., ed. (1995). Physical Violence in American Families.) Yet in most of these cases the man is immediately treated as the aggressor, and some legal systems require him to be arrested, even if he is the one who tried to report the crime. He is treated as a laughing stock by colleagues and the justice system at best, and a wife beater at worst. In most if not all first world countries, which many of these ads are targeted towards, it is widely known that wife beating is a problem and something to be avoided, thus a PSA serves little purpose. Yet including men as victims would help confront gender biases and change public perception in a positive way.

    • JohnJoe

      I find it quite interesting that all of these advertisements and general public opinion place men as the only aggressors in domestic violence. The data disagrees. Statistics show that in a significant percentage of domestic violence cases the woman is the aggressor, at least in first world countries. A number have college studies have even shown that women abuse their partners at higher rates than men do, especially verbally.

    • JohnJoe

      Freedom of speech actually has a lot to due with this. Freedom of speech is something the government has enshrined, it is not only when the government restricts speech. Anyone can restrict speech. It is not illegal for a private corporation such as facebook to do so, but the point is that free speech should be celebrated, and you have to take the bad with the good. No matter the context.the point is that joking about the violence is not inciting it. Normalizing something is not inciting it. I would hesitate to say these pages are even normalizing anything. Many of them are just trolling because they can. Facebooks main restrictions are on images. None of these are pornographic or even seem to be of real victims. To everyone talking about how women and men view these pictures so differently it is not nearly as gendered as you think. In case you forget men are targets of domestic violence and rape as well, and I know plenty of women who would laugh at these jokes because they can see them as jokes. yes these are exposing the darker side of the internet, to view them you should know the rules. Don’t feed the trolls.

    • JohnJoe

      Eh, not Google’s problem. If the community defines a word a certain way, Google should let them search that way. It isn’t Google’s task to regulate our vocabulary, and however much you may personally disagree with it, quite a few people still use those terms interchangeably. The less Google censors information the better. Get some thicker skin people, there are way bigger things to complain about in the world. Buzzfeed was better before LBGT/feminist activists started filling it up with random rants about inane little things.

    • JohnJoe

      He can tell anyone he wants who accuses him of rape. Feminists have such great double standards. If someone can publicly accuse someone of rape, the accused can publicly say who is accusing them. Accusing someone of rape can destroy their life, the more accountability that the accuser has the better. What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty? If you want one to stay quiet both should be kept quiet until a verdict is given.