Everything You Need To Know About NYC’s Soda Ban Saga So Far

It was just overturned by a state supreme court judge. Get your facts straight before you inevitably get in a fight about it at a dinner party.

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Emily Fleischaker

Today a NY State Supreme Court judge overturned NYC Mayor Michael Bloomberg’s proposed limit on selling large, sugary sodas.

The judge’s name is MILTON TINGLING, in case you were wondering.

NYC plans to appeal the state judge’s decision as soon as possible.

According to a statement today from the NYC Law Department.

Here is everything you need to know about this news story so you can effectively and inevitably argue with your friends about it.

1. In May 2012, Bloomberg proposed a 16-oz limit on the size of sugary beverages sold in food service establishments in an effort to curb obesity.

The department of health calls it a “portion cap” the media calls it a “soda ban.” No other cities have anything like this.

Image by Chang W. Lee/The New York Times/Redux

2. In July soda companies formed a grassroots organization to campaign against the ban.

It is called New Yorkers for Beverage Choices and the group canvassed neighborhoods to gather signatures on petitions.

Image by Eric Michael Johnson/The New York Times/Redux

3. In September 2012 the proposal was approved by the NYC Board of Health.

Fun-looking group, eh? The city’s commissioner of health heads the board and is in support of the rule. All of the board’s members are appointment by mayor Bloomberg.

Source: nytimes.com

4. The regulation WAS set to go into effect tomorrow, March 12.

5. So what’s this all about? The rules are a little confusing.

6. The basics:

Diet sodas are ok to be sold in cups larger than 16oz.

7. What would all that mean? It would mean no more two-liter sodas with delivery.

Source: pizzaguy.biz

8. And if a restaurant had a self-service soda fountain, they couldn’t give you a cup larger than 16 ounces.

Source: zachklein

9. And, crazily enough, no more unlimited mixers with bottle service at clubs.

Image by Alberto E. Rodriguez/Getty Images

10. Huge milkshakes WOULD BE allowed.

Drinks that are more than half milk or milk substitute are ok, likely because dairy has other nutritional benefits. And thank GOD because it’s Shamrock Shake season.

Source: thefw.com

11. And Big Gulps and Slurpees would also be allowed — but for a different reason.

Bloomberg’s rule couldn’t affect grocery stores or convenience stores — including 7-11 — because they are regulated by the state and not the city.

12. The “specialized coffee drinks” situation is particularly complicated.

Source: google.com

13. Starbucks had planned no changes.

Their spokesperson to the NYTimes that it wasn’t clear which of their drinks would be regulated. Because even though some of them clearly contain more than the 3.125 grams of sugar per ounce that Bloomberg’s rule prohibits, it’s unclear how much milk is in them and if they hit that 51% mark.

Source: weheartit.com

14. Dunkin Donuts already had signs in their stores explaining the change.

Source: gothamist.com

15. Some saw it as an intrusion on personal liberties.

16. Some just thought it was a stupid idea that wouldn’t work.

17. Others explained why it probably would work.

This article from the New Yorker points out that what people “want” is really just based on what options they are given, and giving them only smaller options will reduce intake.

Source: newyorker.com

18. The whole thing has turned into a little bit of a joke.

19. But almost everyone agrees that America’s increasing soda habit is tied to numerous health problems including obestity.

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    • vibrancy   Everything You Need To Know About NYC...  about a month ago
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    • juanorfrankie 2 months ago

      Why don’t you jack offs worry bout the murder rate and crime in the city than worrying bout how much soda we consume!

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    • jakeg10 2 months ago

      This quote from the New Yorker article mentioned in this post, seems to explain the reasoning behind the “ban”: “Actually, the research shows that what people “want” has a lot to do with how choices are framed. In one well-known study, researchers put a bowl of M&M’s on the concierge desk of an apartment building, with a scoop attached and a sign below that said “Eat Your Fill.” On alternating days, the experimenters changed the size of the scoop—from a tablespoon to a quarter-cup scoop, which was four times as big. If people really ate just “what they want,” the amount they ate should have remained roughly the same. But scoop size turned out to matter a lot: people consumed much more when the scoop was big. This suggests that most of us don’t have a fixed idea of how much we want; instead, we look to outside cues—like the size of a package or cup—to instruct us.”

    • GwnSx   Everything You Need To Know About NYC...  about 2 months ago
    • Bostongirl1287 2 months ago

      It’s called self-control and/or teaching your kids self-control. Or you could just let your government make your decisions for you. Take your pick.

    • leanncora   Everything You Need To Know About NYC...  about 2 months ago
    • tamio2 2 months ago

      What the beverage industry did was NOT grassroots… it’s what those in the non-profit sector like to call astroturfing- making something appear to be a grassroots effort when it was actually corporate funded.

    • Thom 2 months ago

      A note because it’s weird and confusing: The Supreme Court of the State of New York is what New York calls their trial level court system. The court of last appeal, what most States call their “Supreme Court,” is called the “New York Court of Appeals.”

    • Djurcinovska 2 months ago

      Australian and uk size sodas at fast food places and theatres are normal sizes and we still are getting obese. Wouldn’t change a thing.

    • stephanies50 2 months ago

      That stat sheet is stupid. I drink way more than 28 gallons of water a year, as I’m sure most Americans do. That’s about not even 2 months for me!

    • Timothy C. thinks Everything You Need To Know About NYC... is Old  about 2 months ago
    • Yvan Dureve 2 months ago

      American way of life : needing a law to counterbalance miseducation and misinformation.

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    • Purpleburner 2 months ago

      I’m against more regulation because it doesn’t make sense. Diet sodas of any kind are okay even though their sugar substitutes are shown to be cancerous and possible more detrimental to our health than sugar? That’s insane. I am an adult and I can drink whatever I want.  But! On the other hand, I try to eat as healthy as possible and I wish wish wish that they did not have soda machines at my work because the minute I get weak, it’s available. I hate that. I don’t think there should be soda or junk at schools at all either. But if I do decide to sit around all day and eat junk food or go to McDonald’s and load up on a huge amount of soda, then that’s my damn prerogative. Having these mandates will not stop anything, just like having alcohol limitations doesn’t stop people from being alcoholics. Those that want it, will get it.

    • Nugg 2 months ago

      Wow. Check out those absolutely reputable references

    • Curlygirl01 2 months ago

      This article is making me thirsty.

    • vanessaj8 2 months ago

      The ban sucks because they are taking away our right to choose what we can put in our bodies as adults. yadayadayada. We know this. But many counties across the country banned four loco and no one was up in arms about that besides a few college kids.
      On the other hand, I hate going to the movie theatre and asking for a small soda and getting something that a small child can bathe in. And the only time I drink soda is when I go to the movie theatre or eat pizza.  Dont take away my right to choose but also give me a reasonable size soda.

    • Lro84 thinks Everything You Need To Know About NYC... is WTF  about 2 months ago
    • zcesb11 2 months ago

      USB? Ish! Even

    • zcesb11 2 months ago

      Maybe just offer standardised sizes? When I go to the cinema a large coke is WAY bigger than say, McDonald’s. their regulars are what I would call large. Make the cups smaller, reduce prices accordingly, but keep the names. At the end of the day if I buy a share bag of crisps or sweets I will eat more than I’d I have a regular pack. It’s a good idea, but obviously a bit nanny state USB. And if the law doesn’t cover all areas then it is pointless really!

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    • mmmariah 2 months ago

      Who the eff gives 1 and 2 year olds soda?!

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