ב”ה I just have a discussion with the person I learn Talmud with. He and I both agree that the government should permit gay marriage as a civil “thing” — where we disagree is this — I think that the Rabbis (who tell Gays they are sinning but doesn't exactly say how or what they should do about being gay) should come up with religious guidelines (BTW, someone should point out that the law has to do with civil marriage and doesn't force any religious institution to permit gay marriages within the framework of their religion — those who DO accept it, well and fine, but those who don't don't have to have it in their place of worship…… Remember, everyone, the only place in the Middle East where gays have rights (and can fight for the right to have a parade as opposed to other ME countries where gays are fighting for the right to live — just live) is Israel.