We're talking about terrorists and suspected terrorists here. We should be willing to trash our moral, ethical, and legal codes and values, our moral and foreign policy credibility, and—yes!—even our very humanity for a chance to squeeze some information out of them. When we're done (assuming we ever run out of suspicious foreigners who might know something that we'd like to know), we can just go back in time, dust off all that goody-goody lib baggage we jettisoned when it became inconvenient, and pick up right where we left off. I mean, that IS how it's going to work, right? We'll just change our values up a bit and become craven, brutal, inhuman, revenge-seeking, vicious outlaw thugs like our enemies—but only long enough to destroy them, then we'll renounce The Dark Side and have our Light Side benefits and credits reinstated and everyone will honor and respect and trust us again? Right? /sarcasm I've suspected for quite some time now that the reason the hard-right fringe has no problem at all with an “ends justify the means” approach to torture is because they don't stand to lose anything. When you're already morally, ethically, legally, and politically bankrupt, how could you possibly care about retaining a shred of dignity and your own humanity by seeking peace the only way it will ever be attained—through justice?
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