I feel like I have to clarify something here: not having a ticket, or not being able to afford a ticket, doesn't have to mean being thrown off the train. I'm from Scotland, and there have been a couple of times when I didn't have money for a ticket, but I was upfront about it; the inspector took some details and I paid for the ticket at the station the next day. There was no need for this guy's attitude. And as for you, russells4, I take it you're an Englishman, in which case, I also take it you'll do us both a favour and vote 'yes' to Scotland's independence. I'm tired of subsidising wee neds that try to dodge ticket fares, and I'm tired of subsidising you.