Why Women Really Like "50 Shades Of Grey": It’s About Being Served
At a SiriusXM fan forum on the show, one fan of the book said she’d gotten so much, er, use out of it that “my vagina is sore.” And a theme emerged: some women love the book because it shows a man doing all the right things in bed — without having to be asked.
Jennifer Hutt (left), host of SiriusXM’s “Just Jenny,” and Kim Alexander, host of the network’s Book Radio channel.
The bondage-inflected romance novel 50 Shades of Grey has topped the New York Times bestseller lists for 10 weeks, followed at numbers two and three by its two sequels. It’s been most popular with women, especially moms, leading many to call it (dismissively or worshipfully, depending on their point of view) “mommy porn.” So on Friday, SiriusXM convened a radio fan forum, moderated by Kim Alexander and “Just Jenny” host Jennifer Hutt, to determine what about the book gets moms so hot.
The sex in 50 Shades is great, said a caller named Lisa, but what she really liked about the novel wasn’t the bondage. It was the way wealthy businessman Christian Grey does what his lover, the young student Anastasia Steele, wants: “Most guys are like, ‘All right, give me a blowjob.’ […] He takes care of her.”
In the book, Christian Grey washes Ana’s hair, he puts money in her bank account, he gets her to eat — and, of course, he does everything she wants sexually. And while Hutt and Alexander thought Grey’s behavior sometimes verged on the “stalkerish,” fans who called in were captivated by the fantasy of a man who does everything his lover needs — and does it without being asked.
A caller named Deena, a stay-at-home mom, said the books had inspired her to new heights of vibrator overuse: “My vagina is sore.” She was “jumping” her husband more often too, but he wasn’t tying her up like Christian. “If anyone was going to do the tying,” she said, “it was going to be me, because I’m more the initiator.” She said she wasn’t completely satisfied with this state of affairs — and perhaps Grey was an appealing hero for her in part because he took matters (literally) into his own hands. Hutt said that for women, especially moms, this kind of take-charge attitude had a lot of power: “Ana is adored by Christian Grey, and I think that moms want to be adored and ravaged.”
Of course, not every man is Christian Grey. A caller named Carl, a truck driver from Washington, D.C., said guys “don’t know what to do” to please women sexually: “You’ve got to be real open about it,” he explained. But Hutt opined that part of the appeal of the trilogy was that Ana didn’t have to say what she wanted — Grey just knew what to do. For women, she said, the need to always communicate their desires can be a “burden”: “Why does there have to be a fucking instruction manual to fuck me?”
It’s become generally accepted that communication is the key to good sex — communication tips have become a cornerstone of sex guides for everyone from Christian couples to sex slaves. But talking can be difficult, and maybe the popularity of 50 Shades is in part a backlash against the admonishment to talk, a sign that sometimes people yearn for someone who just knows. A Seattle woman expressed this sentiment in a Craigslist ad that went viral in 2008, under the heading, “Just fucking fuck me, already.” And so did Jessa, of Girls, when a man she picked up in a bar asked if it was okay to put his hand in her pants, and she responded, “Never ask me that again in my whole life.” Maybe 50 Shades of Grey speaks to women’s desire not to have to speak.
Katie Roiphe opined in Newsweek that the book’s popularity showed that modern women, successful at work, secretly yearned to be submissive in bed. But the fans at Friday’s event seemed less interested in submitting than they were in being effortlessly, totally understood. The emphasis on communication is at least in part a response to restrictive mores that told women they shouldn’t voice their desires at all. But speaking up can also be hard work, and it’s no surprise if overworked women — especially moms, who spend a lot of their time pleasing others — want their sexual needs fulfilled without having to spell them out. For fans like Deena and Lisa, 50 Shades may be less about giving up power than about giving up responsibility, less about being dominated than about being served.
But as Carl points out, men aren’t mind-readers. 50 Shades of Grey is a fantasy, and real people usually aren’t as naturally in sync as Christian and Ana. And this may be an area where the book can actually help — a caller named Shawn said that in his dating life, “This book has taken the learning curve of knowing someone to step 10.” He said when he met fellow fans of the book, he already knew they might be interested in more adventurous sex. And, he said, “The book has given us permission to do the naughty things that so many conservative ideals in our lives have kept us from doing.”
Hutt advised him to be careful, because not all women who liked the book were interested in being tied up (of those who called into and sat in on the show, none said they actually enjoyed bondage). Still, maybe the book can function as a kind of shorthand, a way for women to talk about what they want without having to spell everything out. Carl suggested that women print out sections and hand them to their partners so they know what to do. And while this may not be for everyone (Hutt said her husband would make fun of her), for some women, 50 Shades could take some of the pressure out of communication. Maybe the book can do the talking for them.
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stevek12 6 months agoAs a man, I find the fantasy that “a man should just KNOW what a woman wants” is damaging. Even loving, considerate men (like myself) need our women to give us at least a clue. The notion that we should somehow intuit this is pure crap. In fact, if we tried to act on something because we “just know she wants,” we could quite soon find ourselves charged with rape. Get a clue, ladies. Tell us what you like and don’t like, and to take some of the pressure off, do it over coffee at a local cafe; don’t wait until we’re in bed or, worse, afterward, to say, “I really wish you would/wouldn’t do (fill in the blank).” Just my two cents.
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David Ellis 9 months agoHow about a different kind of parody on Twitter inspired by 50 Shades of Grey - 50 Shapes of Cakes @50cakes - It is cake/bakery erotica for those with a fondness of pastry love and obsession.
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alitayeah 10 months agoI haven’t read the trilogy but I have read a LOT of comments about it (enough to give me a pretty good idea what it’s about) and I have read Story Of O. In my opinion, the reason for the book’s popularity goes much deeper than just good sex scenes. I think it touches on something very primal: women’s need to subjugate themselves and men’s need to dominate. In a world where women are pushed (yes, pushed - and by the sisterhood itself in most cases) to be ever more independent and successful, bold and strong, our X chromosomes are crying out from constantly stretching themselves to adapt. (And isn’t it funny that it always rears its head in the one place where the outside world is generally not allowed and imagination takes over?) And what about men? More men than ever are depressed, committing suicide and leaving marriages than ever before. Could it be that on some subconscious level, Ms James has uncovered the powerful truth that if a man is allowed to dominate at least ONE thing in his life, albeit another human being, it will give him a sense of control over his own life sufficient to lead to him actually being willing to change for the better and this will benefit himself, his woman, his family and society in general?
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Steve Anderson 10 months agoI think “older business” men would be very inclined to be more of a mind reader if he were dating a hot younger student. Men are very visual lovers. If the woman is hot and into it - then it is easy to be hot and into it. If you want a great lover - be a great lover and hit the gym occasionally. If you care about yourself and take care of yourself you are much more likely to attract a lover who will also care about your needs. Of course this is NOT true if you select a lover who is so hot that he can have anyone he wants. These men don’t need to please you. After all, you are “lucky” to be in his presence. Try dating a guy who is excited to be with you. If you are not a super model - then don’t try to date one and win him over with sex. You are setting yourself up for a relationship where you will be the one “giving” forever. Instead consider dating someone who has to work for you a bit. Mommy’s spend all day “pleasing” others - Well I think both sexes in what ever role they are playing can claim this. Weather it is pleasing screaming kids or screaming customers - EVERYONE spends all day pleasing someone else. This is NO excuse to be selfish. In fact being a great lover is more about being in a relationship where you firmly believe in the “I take care of you and you take care of me motto”…. It all falls apart when one person starts looking out for themselves. Of course, this does not have to be all in one session. You can please her and just her during one session (or two or three) as long as she cares about your needs at some point…. But if you are giving and the other is just taking - then you are screwed.
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Ali Wherewithall 11 months agoMEN DO NOT HAVE A CLUE WHAT THEYRE DOING IN BED.
WE CAN THANK THE PORN INDUSTRY FOR THEIR CLUELESSNESS.
12 y.o’S ARE GETTING THEIR SEX ED OFF FREE INTERNET PORNSITES ON THEIR SMART PHONES. BOYS GROWUP THINGKING GIRLS LOVE TO BE HUMILIATED, GANG BANGED, SODOMIZED AND DONT HAVE A CLUE WHAT REAL WOMEN WANT.
Thanks alot porn industry, for being responsible for a whole new generation of sexual missfits and ignorants. -
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philc13 5 months agoRight and this 50 shades of grey and other such books women love does a lot to add to this cluelessness. It is no wonder that while a lot of women enjoy the book, few reported enthusiasm for its theme of domination. It is why men get ridiculed for asking “may I kiss you” by women who say it is not sexy to ask for permission, and get scorned or worse imprisoned by the same women who say “you do not come into my personal space without my permission.”
Books like these are dangerous for the same reason that porn is dangerous, they give you a false impression of the real world.
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toni hubble a year agoI kind of found it……. boring. So boring, reading it was a chore. It took me about a week to finish it, I don’t hate myself enough to read the second one.
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lynne benoux a year agoWhy are we flipping out about porn? Is it because it was made for women? Oh bother. It’s called a “romance” novel. They’re all full of raunchy text.
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Mools a year agoSo men fantasize that women are as horny as they are and want their bodies as much as we want theirs. Women fantasize that men are rich mind readers who will give up any and their sense of individuality and self in order to serve their every whim/emotion and essentially be mindless slaves. I wonder who should be more offended.
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Holden Haas a year agoIn that case, I should right a book about a woman who can give a decent blowjob.
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☁Spam Of God☁ a year agoWhy is it so hard for society to accept that some girls just really enjoy being submissive with their lovers? That’s patronizing. Women can be kinky too. You don’t have to move heaven and earth to find some subtextual cues about female empowerment in the book. It’s “empowering” to explore your sexuality, even if it’s politically incorrect.
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Lillithdv8 a year agoWe read it in my club and boy, it’s a FUCKING TERRIBLE book.
Poor repetitive writing: “Oh my, holy cow/crap/f^ck, inner godess, down there…” bleh!
The characters are vapid and total Mary Sues (what could we expect from a Twilight the mother of all Mary Sues)
Also it’s a long PWP type of book. Just a vessel for mediocre smut…
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Jennifer O. a year agoI mean isn’t that why porn is popular? it’s all about fantasies, regardless of gender or power.
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SitaSky a year agoIf you want really good romance fiction read Jude Deveraux or Diana Gabaldon. 50 shades is just drivel that’s just as bad as all the other awful fan ficton out there. There is a ton of great romance novels that deserve more attention than 50 shades. Now, If you really want submission erotica than read The Story of O.
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