Oprah And Shonda Rhimes Reveal Why Marriage Isn't For Them

"I never played bride. I was never interested. I don't know what it is; I never wanted to get married."

Oprah Winfrey and Shonda Rhimes are undeniably two reigning queens of the universe.

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If you sensed time slowing down this past Sunday, it was probably because a conversation between Oprah and Shonda was airing on OWN and making time irrelevant. Among the topics at hand? Marriage, and why both women have abstained from it.

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"I was able to stand up and say 'I don't want to get married. At all,'" Shonda said.

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"[It] feels obvious and maybe silly or something to people who are married or people who are older, people who have been through it. But if you're a woman in your thirties or forties, that's a big deal. Everybody's asking you all the time if it's going to happen...There's a huge amount of pressure."

"It's a lot like the desire to want to have children in our society," she continued. "You're supposed to want it, and if you don't want it, what's wrong with you?"

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Shonda continued to describe her desire for children alongside her lack of desire for marriage: "I never played bride. I was never interested. I don't know what it is; I never wanted to get married."

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"I'm one of those people, since I was 5, I could tell you I was going to have kids. I could tell you I was going to have three. I could tell you they were going to be girls. But I have never wanted to get married. I never played bride. I was never interested. I don't know what it is; I never wanted to get married."

Oprah, too, discusses part of what led to the decision not to marry her longtime, partner Stedman Graham: "The moment he asked me to marry him I was, like... 'Now I actually have to get married?'"

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"I don't know if I've ever said this publicly, but I really wanted to be wanted to be married to. I wanted Stedman to want to marry me. The moment he asked me to marry him I was, like: 'Now I actually have to get married?'"

"What I realized is, I don't want to be married," Oprah said. "Because I could not have the life that I created for myself...I knew that I couldn't do it."

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H/T Huffington Post.